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RE: DRV8872-Q1: Rds_on vs Iout worst characteristics

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Hi team,

Under our assumed conditions, is there a possibility that it will be larger than the maximum Rds_on of the datasheet?
Vm is from 7V to 16V.
Output current is 1.5A.
Ambient temperature is up to 125℃.

Best regards,
Tomoaki Yoshida

DRV8872-Q1: Rds_on vs Iout worst characteristics

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Part Number: DRV8872-Q1

Hi support team,

In order to identify the worst conditions under their use conditions, out customer would like the following data.

1. Rds_on vs Iout Graph worst condition

2. RDS(on) vs Tj worst condition

3. VTRIP vs Tj worst condition

For the number 2 and 3 above, there was a typical conditionand ambient temperature in the data sheet.

Although the design must be established under the worst condition in their use conditions, the worst condition of the electrical characteristics of the data sheet is more stringent than their condition.

Is there no way to calculate the worst value under usage conditions with simulation etc. even if there is no graph?

Best regards,

Tomoaki Yoshida

RE: DRV8884: RMS current measured is not as expected

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Hi Uhtis,

It is recommended to use ~141k resistor with a torque setting of 50%.

This should provide optimal performance at such low currents. Using the torque setting of 50% reduces the blanking time to 1us instead of the standard 1.5us, which should help with current ripple. Please refer to table 6 for details.

RE: DRV8825 microstepping large errors

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Hi Rick,

pls can you tell me the conditions of your setup?

Mine are: 24V, 2,8Ohm/4,2mH, and I'm getting the following results:

Even if I reduce the input-voltage to 10V, slow-decay isn't working:

Switching to fast-decay solves the prob (w/ very high current-ripple)

And yes, I suppose the DRV8880/DRV8886 would have been a better choice...

Regards

Martin

DRV8825 microstepping large errors

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I have been doing some testing on a DRV8825 Pololu module from China. I have found that the unit gets very hot and has very poor microstepping as compared to the A4988, I was wondering if this was expected or if it might be a knock off chip in these modules?

Specifically on the microstepping I have connected an encoder to the motor and monitored the motor angle and found that the 16x microstepping causes motor to jump forward or lag behind 2-4 microsteps.  I have tried increasing current and when I do the motor starts humming and getting really hot, but the performance does not improve. 

When I replace the module with an A4988 module the error is less than 1 microstep with lower current and no noise.   I had expected that the TI chip would far exceed the A4988 chip and hence wanted to see if this is expected behavior of the DRV8825?

RE: BOOSTXL-DRV8301: LAUNCHPADXL-F28379D Compatibility

RE: DRV8825 microstepping large errors

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Hi Martin,

I don't have the motor parameters available. The motor is 1.8 degrees per full step.

From the datasheet image, the motor speed is much higher (3200 steps/second at 1/8 steps = 120 RPM, 2 revolutions/sec).

The image you provide shows the motor running at ~1/3 revolution per minute. Is that correct?

RE: DRV8825 microstepping large errors

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Hi Rick,
correct, the motor is turning VERY SLOW. But the situation does not really change a lot at higher speeds (until the back emf enters the game...)
Regards
Martin

RE: DRV10983: Motor configuration file

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Please skip 5. out-of-the Box Quick Start Guide  step 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 first

Please reference Tuning Guide http://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/slou395 to evaluate the motor you have in hand.

Please do feedback to us you if have any questions after following tuning guide. Thank you.

Thanks again

Janet

RE: BOOSTXL-DRV8323RH: Interfacing PWM Input from Arduino/Raspberry Pi

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Hi Phil,

Thanks for all your help with this issue - I am a colleague of Rasa, we have been running the motor as suggested for a while now, but we recently realized we are not getting enough torque using 1x PWM mode with external control. If we go back to the Launchpad and 6x PWM mode on the GUI, it runs very well and produces a lot more torque. There seems to be a commutation problem when controlling via the Raspberry pi. What do you think could be a factor in this issue?

BOOSTXL-DRV8323RH: Interfacing PWM Input from Arduino/Raspberry Pi

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Part Number: BOOSTXL-DRV8323RH

We currently have the motor drive connected to launch pad board, running software from the launch pad GUI. We are trying to control motor motion with our own PWM source from a Rasp Pi or Arduino - so far we tried connecting our PWM source to the INHA J4 header pin and changing the mode on the GUI to Synchronous 1x PWM Mode. We also tried connecting the Mode pin to 3.3 V. These attempts have been unsuccessful.

Are there any hardware or software adjustments that are missing?

DRV8303: PWM issue

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Part Number: DRV8303

we are currently having some issues with the DRV8303 Chip by TI. It would be great if you could help us out fixing this problems.

 

We are using the Chip to drive a BLDC Motor which moves a large mass (A sliding door). Therefor we got 35V supply voltage and generating a peak current per phase of around 7.5A in the acceleration phase of the door. We also of course monitoring the supplyvoltage because of the voltage peaks which are generated while breaking. To prevent the destruction of the components we are shorting out the supplyvoltage over a 10 Ohm Power Resistor when the voltage reaches 42V and deactivate the short when the voltage is back down to around 36V. This is done over a comparator with hysteresis.

Now we are experiencing a phenomenon which we can`t  explain. Every time this voltage limiter is activated (Voltage climbs to 42V) the PWM signals for the High-Side MOS-FETs are getting disturbed. In normal operation the Voltage of the PWM for the High-Side MOS-FETs is slightly higher then the supplyvoltage to get the High-Side N-MOS to conduct. In our case the PWM Signal rises up to the supplyvoltage and then breaks down again to zero volt. This is repeated several times until finally the PWM Signal overcomes the supplyvoltage and the N-MOS begins to conduct.

For better explanation please take a look at the following Screenshot of the Oscilloscope (Yellow trace is the Gate of the High-Side N-Mos, Blue trace is the Source of the High-Side N-MOS, Pink is the supplyvoltage):

 

 

  

I could send some Screenshots of the Schematic via mail. Just let me know.

Thanks in advance!

 

ciao

Hanno

 

RE: DRV8303: PWM issue

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Hi Hanno,

Can you provide a zoomed in capture of the three signal during the disturbance?
From your description, the pink signal is the system voltage that should be clamped at 42V. I do not see the voltage above 40V.

RE: DRV10983EVM USB2ANY Firmware Requirement

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I'm having the same problem with my client, please advise. We've searched the website fairly thoroughly and there doesn't seem to be a clear fix once it gets to this point. Please help.

DRV10983EVM USB2ANY Firmware Requirement

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Hi,

We started on DRV10983EVM but when connect the EVM to PC, encountered following error.

We finished GUI tool and Labview install.

Do you have any idea to solve it?

regards


RE: DRV8872-Q1: Rds_on vs Iout worst characteristics

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Hi Yoshida-san,

Sorry for the delay.

A rough estimate is the RDSon will be ~15% more at 1.5A. More power in the FETs contributes to more heat and higher RDSon.

RE: DRV8308: Pre-Driver PWM Pulse Width with Closed-Loop Speed Control

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Also, the motors I am using have digital hall sensors, so I need the hall sensor inputs for commutation control.

DRV8308: Pre-Driver PWM Pulse Width with Closed-Loop Speed Control

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Part Number: DRV8308

What is the balance between PWM frequency, duty cycle and the control loop for closed-loop control with Clock Frequency Mode?

I have an application that normally needs a motor RMS current of 5 to 20 mA and has a maximum current limit of 340 mA (calculated from the maximum torque limit). The motor has low winding inductance (85 uH) and resistance (5.5-ohm). I plan to operate the DRV8308 with a supply voltage of 8.5 V. Due to the low winding inductance, the di/dt is very fast, so I would like to understand the relationship between using a high PWM frequency and the ability to manage speed and current.

Also, if the PWM Ton time (PWM pulse width) is shorter than the Current Limit blank time (TBLANK), does the Current Limit circuitry even have an impact? (I presume the blank time is reset at the beginning of every PWM cycle.)

As for the PWM output for the MOSFET pre-drivers (assuming 120° commutation, not sine-wave-drive), my understanding is that the duty cycle is based on the output of the speed control loop (differentiator, integrator, digital filter, etc.) which results in a 12-bit duty cycle to be applied as Ton for the next PWM cycle. That said, if the PWM frequency is set to 200 kHz, the PWM cycle time is 1/200 kHz = 5 us. Then with the 12-bit duty cycle, the PWM Ton time can be as small as 5 us / 4095 = 1.22 ns (e.g. a 50% duty cycle would have a 2.5 us Ton time or a count of 2048 where 2048*1.22 = 2.5 us). Is this the correct understanding of how the PWM output works?

However, a minimum PWM Ton time (PWM pulse width) of 1.22 ns doesn't even seem realistic since it would require a transistor gate charge of about 0.15 nC just to turn on with the DRV8308 maximum output drive current of 130 mA (rise time = gate charge [C] / pre-driver current [A]). That doesn't even allow the FET to fully conduct and a power MOSFET with that low of a gate charge is not readily available to the masses.

Overall, I'd like to make sure I am correctly understanding the closed-loop speed control operation and the associated PWM output duty cycle operation and timing resolution. Once I correctly understand those and the relationship between PWM Ton time and Current Limit blank time, I believe I can determine how to properly use the DRV8308 in my application.

Thank you,

Jim

RE: DRV10983Q1EVM: Abnormal Back EMF

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(Please visit the site to view this file)Hi Cole, 

Thanks for getting back to me. With some effort, I was able to measure the Kt value manually, and it turned out to be 9 mV/Hz. I am able to spin the motor without any faults on the GUI. However, I see the following concerns:

1) The motor draws more current at no load than specified by the data sheet. At no load 140 RPM, I see around 600 mA while the datasheet calls out 250 mA. 

2) It gets hot within minutes of spinning at the maximum no load RPM of ~140 

3) It is extremely noisy, contradicting the noise numbers provided by the vendor.

Please find the attached motor torque curves and noise specifications. I believe I am not driving the motor efficiently and that, consequently, is the reason for the noise and the heat. Please share your thoughts.

Best,

Ganesan M.(Please visit the site to view this file)

DRV10983Q1EVM: Abnormal Back EMF

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Part Number: DRV10983Q1EVM

Hello Sir/Madam, 

I am trying to spin a 6V BLDC with the DRV10983Q1-EVM by connecting the three phases to U,V,W and supplying 7V. I have programmed phase resistance and Kt value by:

1. Measuring no load resistance between two phases and dividing it by 2

2. Kt= [6/(40,000 rpm/60/2 pole pairs)]  ~ 18 mV/Hz . I have tweaked the value of Kt by +- 30% from this value to get it up and spinning. 

However, I see a back EMF error Code 2 as the system moves to closed loop. This however does not stop motor operation as I have disabled lock detect on the software GUI. I would like to understand what am I doing wrong and if this would affect the torque curves and characterization of the motor?

Please see attached image above.

Thanks,

Ganesan M.

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