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CCS/DRV10983: drv10983 does not respond to PWM

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Part Number: DRV10983

Tool/software: Code Composer Studio

I need to control a BLDC motor for a project I'm working on, so I purchased a DRV10983 driver. I've been following the Programming Guide, so I got a TI Launchpad, the Target Board, and downloaded the example code and opened it in CCS. The only thing I've changed in the program is the value for the register at offset 0x2B. I changed its value from 0x0C to 0x0E because I want to drive the motor using a 50kHz PWM signal at the SPEED pin. I realize for ideal performance I need to follow the steps in the Tuning Guide, but I was hoping that everything might work "well enough" with the default values in the example code. Here is a screenshot of my register values:

I set up the DRV10983 driver as shown in the Application Schematic in the datasheet, and I drive it with a VCC of 12V. When I test the driver, the motor starts spinning exactly as expected. However, it does not seem to respond to different duty cycles at its SPEED pin. Furthermore, after a seemingly random amount of time (its different every time I test it), the motor changes from spinning quickly and smoothly to spinning slowly and in a jumping fashion. I've checked the FG output of the driver and its pulses decrease accordingly.

Is there something obviously wrong with my register values, or do I need to follow the Tuning Guide?


DRV8818: Analog input pin

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Part Number: DRV8818

Hello,

Our customer use the DRV8818, have a question.

Is there any internal filter at analog input pin (VREF, DECAY)?

The customer are considering the noise impact on the device operation.

Best Regards,

Naoki Aoyama

RE: DRV8839: We are checking the performance between DRV8839 and DRV8837.

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Hector:
Many thanks, we have got our answers.
Thanks a lot!
Best regards
Luck Wu

RE: DRV10983EVM: Problems tuning for my Maxon EC32 motor 226006

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Brian,

I came across a note saying that the ground line should not be connected to the motor. Once this was disconnected, so the only motor connection is the 3 phases, then the motor speed became controllable!
The open loop stuck lock has cleared but I have a BEMF abnormal alert. When the BEMF lock is disabled I have my estimated Kt of 36.6mV/Hz and in the Display page is 80mV/Hz. I increased the T Advance all the way up to 2mS but that only reduced the BEMF level to 60mV/Hz.

With the BEMF lock disabled when I set the speed demand to 75 I get my desired motor speed of 600rpm,

With the T Advance at 1.76m and the Kt set to 51.3 then BEMF on the Display page is 67 and I have no lock flags.

Can you suggest how I could improve the performance so that I am not operating so close to a lockout condition?

Thanks very much for your help

John

DRV10983EVM: Problems tuning for my Maxon EC32 motor 226006

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Part Number: DRV10983EVM

I have read and re-read slou395d.pdf which has been helpful but I am unable to control the speed of the motor effectively.

The motor parameters are as follows:

Item NumberOperation VoltageNoof PolesMax speed (rpm)Max CurrentR (Phase- CT)Kt (ph-ph)LR ConstantIntertia Time
Maxon EC3224845300.56.85080?304mS

I include a copy of the data available from Maxon below.

I have determined the Inertia T using the method recommended in the guide.

I do not have a current probe for my scope so havent been able to determine the LC constant.

In open loop mode I can start the motor and fan blades running but I don't seem to be able to reach my target speed which is 600 rpm.  The motor reaches 320 rpm and then changing the speed demand has no effect and varying parameters such as Kt and Phase resistance etc only increases the current from the PSU but does not increase the speed at all.

Similarly if I change the Open Loop/Align Current value from 0.4A to 0.8A the current consumption increases but the speed does not change.

What am I doing wrong?

Best regards

John

The motor configuration file is:

DRV10983 0x20 0x6D
DRV10983 0x21 0x2A
DRV10983 0x22 0x3B
DRV10983 0x23 0x0
DRV10983 0x24 0x40
DRV10983 0x25 0xFD
DRV10983 0x26 0x88
DRV10983 0x27 0x90
DRV10983 0x28 0xA9
DRV10983 0x29 0x49
DRV10983 0x2A 0x5
DRV10983 0x2B 0xD

RE: CSD88539ND: About EAR

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Mayumi,

This is confidential roadmap information you are asking and not something to be posted on a public forum. I will send you a friend request so we can continue the discussion in private.

RE: DRV8711EVM: How to measure the motor current with an oscilloscope?

DRV8711EVM: How to measure the motor current with an oscilloscope?


RE: DRV8320: PWM Mode Issues

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Hi Navin,

Can you please clarify whether you see this when using TI 's DRV8320 EVM and the GUI provided with it or this is happening on your own development?

If you are using the GUI, you need multiple cycles for the motor due to the ramp rate parameter in the GUI.

For information on all of the GUI parameters, please refer to the user guide

Also, make sure the output for the halls match the corresponding phase of the motor, this can cause commutation problems. Thank you.

DRV8320: PWM Mode Issues

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Part Number: DRV8320

I am unable to configure my DRV8320S in 1XPWM mode in one count. It takes more than 3000 count to configure it. Also the IC is getting heated up to 60*C. What may be the possible cause. Even after configuring, i am unable to see comutation output on PINS of DRV.

RE: DRV8323R: DRV 8323R temperature according to PWM modes

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Hello Min-su,

Can you please provide the test case scenarios for both modes, 1xPWM and 6xPWM.
Voltage, frequency, duty cycle, etc.
Based on that, I can go to the lab and recreate this on our evaluation module if possible to see if this is device related or is due to signal provided to the inputs pins. Thank you.

DRV8323R: DRV 8323R temperature according to PWM modes

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Part Number: DRV8323R

I use DRV8323RH for BLDC motors.

When I use 1 PWM mode, the temperature of 8323R goes up to 40 celcius degree.

But, When I use 6 PWM mode, the temperature of 8323 R goes up to 65 celcius degree.

I used a thermal camera for measuring temperature.

1-PWM mode is used to 6-step control and 6-PWM mode is used to SVPWM control.

I wonder it is normal.

If it is not normal,  what I should do for 6-PWM mode?

RE: DRV8818: Analog input pin

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Aoyama-san,

These pins do not have internal filtering. The datasheet recommends a 0.1-uF capacitor on DECAY. You can use that same value for VREF if you have noise concerns on that pin also.

RE: DRV8308: Reduce loss through sense resistor

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Hi John,
I apologize for the delayed response. the DRV8320 might be a candidate when using 1xPWM(Please check figure 19 for Hall effect sensor connections). Take a look at the datasheet here: www.ti.com/.../drv8320.pdf
Thank you.

DRV8308: Reduce loss through sense resistor

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Part Number: DRV8308

Hello, I really love the DRV8308 because of the commutation logic feature that it has. However I am worried about the amount of power lost through the sense resistor. The device starts limiting current at 0.25V across the sense resistor. This means the the power lost is equal to your limiting current x 0.25V. We want to limit current at 3A, meaning we will use ~70mOhm resistor and burn 750mW accross it. Is there any way to use a smaller resistor without losing the current limiting functionality of the chip? I am worried about applying an amplifier to sense resistor as the output voltage still needs to be very small.

Thanks,


RE: DRV8323: Adding additional poles to the firmware

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Hi Gunter,
Were you able to find the answer on your end? I know our GUI has the motor poles selection under the motor control parameters that can be changed from 2 to 12 poles. If this is not what you were referring to please repost your question. Thank you very much

DRV8323: Adding additional poles to the firmware

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Part Number: DRV8323

Hi,

a customer is working with the DRV8323BOOST and F5529 LP with firmware for BLDC sensored. These examples we think came out of the DRV group. Do we have any examples with additional poles?

Thanks,

--Gunter

RE: DRV8320: high side charge pump, withstand against short.

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Hi Yeasiahu,
The other half bridges will not be affected but depending on the mode and settings, the device could completely shut off to protect itself. thank you.

DRV8320: high side charge pump, withstand against short.

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Part Number: DRV8320

what happen to other two high side outputs,   if one of the high-side gate drivers,  GHA  for instance, is shorted to ground.

RE: DRV10983EVM: Problems tuning for my Maxon EC32 motor 226006

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John,

Thanks for the update! I didn't think to ask what you were doing with the common node of the motor.

It looks like you already have the largest lock window programmed so we can change that.

You can try changing the control coefficient to 0.75 to see if that helps. It's kind of a fudge factor in the algorithm, but may get the calculated and the programmed value to be closer to the same.

The other knob you can turn is changing the Rm up or down a little to get the calculated Kt closer to the programmed value.

Thanks,
Brian
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